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linuxbod
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| Posted on March 20 2008 13:56 |
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Im new to the ms community and just got access to a terminal so far!!
Im a linux administrator and have been for over 8 years...
I like the power the vms has to offer
I need a OS pack and to get it running under emulation on a linux box to get to grips with it
then illl get my own alpha box of ebay or something like that!!
im looking forward to using this OS
be nice to port kde onto it!!!
i see other open source apps available
anybody else run a vms box under emulation?? .... help!!!!
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imiller
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| Posted on March 25 2008 02:27 |
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You can get a VMS CD from this site and use SIMH (free hardware emulator) to run VMS. There are systems around one which you can get a free login to try out. See 'Free VMS Accounts' links on www.openvms.org (right hand site of home page, scroll down a bit) |
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linuxbod
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| Posted on March 25 2008 02:50 |
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ive managed to get a open vms alpha copy 8.3
ll try this with simh on my debain box...
Just want to get a test box up so i can test commands on it really
coming from a linux box i kind of sitt scratching my head at the vms console!!
Looks and sounds fairly wicked just need to explore vms
also i was in a vms terminal the other day and wanted to quit the session instead of just clicking X on the putty box is there a way to exit - IE typing quit etc
I typed EXIT  can this do any damage IE stop running programs??..
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SYSMGR
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| Posted on March 25 2008 03:14 |
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In full typing: "logout". But most VMS users type "lo" - unique enough, there is only one command that begins with these two letters: LOgout. 
If you have programs running, you will have to stop them first - unless you pushed them onto a batch or started them to be free-running ('detached" - not attached to a terminal).
If you're use to *x, be propared for some surprises. VMS is not like *x.
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linuxbod
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| Posted on March 25 2008 03:19 |
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ah many thanks :-)
does the command exit do anything at all?
And i notice you dont type linux!! is that bad in here!
I noticed its very similair altough two very differnt OS's
its a damn site better than running windows!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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SYSMGR
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| Posted on March 25 2008 03:34 |
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"Exit" has a meaning in comandprocedures (in *x (Linux/unix) parlance: scripts): it exits the procedure and returns to the caller: the other procedure, or the process that started the procedure. batch procedures will next end (logout).
*X is short for 'Linux/Unix". means nothing special. There are significant differences between VMS and unix/linux. that's all I wanted to mention. |
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linuxbod
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| Posted on March 25 2008 03:52 |
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ah ok many thanks for your help and information im looking
forward to getting a VMS box up and running
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HobbyistOne
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| Posted on March 25 2008 05:14 |
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linuxbod wrote:
ive managed to get a open vms alpha copy 8.3
ll try this with simh on my debain box...
Don't want to burst your bubble too much, but you can't use the Alpha 8.3 with SIMH. SIMH emulates a VAX hardware, which is quite different from the Alpha hardware. Kind of like having a PPC linux distribution and you only have a Wintel box |
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linuxbod
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| Posted on March 25 2008 05:32 |
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Ahh ok which version do i need then ...
We have different versions available ..
Is there nothing to run the alpha?
What is the best solution all round
I want to run a emulator on a linux box to test
what emulaltor and which version of VMS is required?..
Thanks for the information :-)
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martinv2
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| Posted on March 25 2008 09:27 |
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linuxbod wrote:
Ahh ok which version do i need then ...
We have different versions available ..
Is there nothing to run the alpha?
What is the best solution all round
I want to run a emulator on a linux box to test
what emulaltor and which version of VMS is required?..
If you use SIMH (compiles well under *ix), you'd need a VMS VAX CD (any version, the later the better) - you could order one from this site.
VMS Alpha can be run on a hardware Alpha - small ones go cheap on Ebay these days. There is a free version of a commercial Alpha emulator which unfortunately only runs under WinXP. No idea whether it runs under Wine. There also is a SourceForge ES40 emulator project, but it's in its early stages still.
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linuxbod
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| Posted on March 27 2008 06:20 |
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Ive managed to get alpha running today on personal alpha on vista but no network support ! i just wanted to see the install really
Im going to look for a vax disk today and get installed on SIMH on a debain box tomorrow. Need to get into a terminal and learn how to use it!!
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martinv2
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| Posted on March 27 2008 08:53 |
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Ive managed to get alpha running today on personal alpha on vista but no network support ! i just wanted to see the install really
Great!
Im going to look for a vax disk today and get installed on SIMH on a debain box tomorrow.
Although it's a bit dated, the installation instructions on Phil Wherry's site are still a valuable resource.
One thing: dd-ing the installation CD into a container file isn't necessary; under Linux, SIMH can access /dev/cdrom directly.
Good luck!
cu,
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linuxbod
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| Posted on March 28 2008 00:00 |
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Yes they are the 1st instructions i found!
the dd isnt bad if your planning on installing a few times then you have the image on your machine.
I set up the emulator last night on the debain box
Acoupke hicups on the make but its waiting for the media now
Ive got alpha but not vax media so ill have to get a kit i suppose.
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