Posts: 47 Location: Windermere, UK Joined: 16.05.07
Posted on July 12 2008 21:53
Hi,
I'd like to buy another couple of drives for my ZX6000, but there appears to be conflicting information on the internet. The HP specs say that the ZX6000 uses Ultra 160 hot swap drives, but in the RX servers manual a comparison of the ZX6000 and RX2600 say they both use Ultra 320 drives.
Having looked on ebay it also seems that a lot of the drives for sale use a physically different locking mechanism (a red button at the bottom rather than a handle with a hole in). I can take a chance, but it would be useful to know what proliant servers for example I can use the drives out of
Posts: 21 Location: Los Angeles, CA Joined: 08.01.08
Posted on September 03 2008 18:19
Stephen Hoffman wrote:
The zx6000 series uses the ring-style disks, the sorts of removable hard disks that were in wide use at HP prior to its acquisition of Compaq. The rx2600 and rx2620 servers and various of the older Integrity boxes and the DS2100 SCSI shelf all use similar ring disks.
For eBay search purposes, when looking for the ring-style SCSI drives and/or drive sleds, VMS hobbyist rx26xx / zx6000 owners may want to search for drives compatible with the following HP computers (besides zx6000 / rx2600 / rx2620, and DS2100 noted by Hoff):
HP DS2300 ... (capacity for 14 removable scsi disks - usually beige)
HP TC3100 ... (capacity for 5 removable scsi disks - usually beige)
HP TC4100 ... (capacity for 8 removable scsi disks - usually beige)
HP ML150 G2 (capacity for 6 removable scsi disks - usually black)
HP 9000 models rp3400, rp3410, rp4410, rp7420, rp8420 ... (mixed)
Note that the HP Proliant ML150-G2 was produced with a non-hot-pluggable SCSI drive cage, or a hot-pluggable SCSI drive cage, or a SATA drive cage, and only the hot-pluggable SCSI version uses ring-style drive sleds compatible with the zx6000 and other machines listed above.
Hope this helps,
-- Jim
P.S. Browsing on eBay for drives, it didn't take me long to conclude that my hobbyist dollars would go a lot farther purchasing 80-pin SCSI U320 or U160 bare drives, and then purchasing the zx6000 compatible sleds separately.
P.P.S. As a VMS hobbyist "in recovery" now from a serious case of the illness HPEAS (HP Equipment Acquisition Syndrome :-), I find myself with a surplus of the "0" zero capacity (dummy) sleds. HP recommends these plastic dummies be used to fill empty scsi drive slots, I presume in order to increase air flow nearer the real drives. The "0" zero capacity dummies are simply "false fronts" and it is NOT possible to install a drive into these sled substitutes.
So if there are any VMS zx6000 / rx2600 / rx2620 users out there whose second-hand machines didn't come with "0" zero capacity dummy sleds in the empty slots, feel free to contact me via private message if you need to "borrow" one or two (no charge "while supply lasts" -- just send 'em back if/when you eventually put real drives into those slots :-)
Posts: 87 Location: The Netherlands Joined: 28.03.10
Posted on November 25 2010 12:40
This is a very confusing issue, because not long ago I installed three 300 GB U320 SCSI HDDs in my rx2600 (or zx6000, if you wish), one was DOA unfortunately. Anyway, I then noticed that Pun3 was recognized as U160, while the rest (Pun0 and Pun1) as U320. I believe this wasn't the case before (that maybe something ‘broke’), but I could be wrong.
Posts: 87 Location: The Netherlands Joined: 28.03.10
Posted on January 02 2011 15:29
eMGee wrote:
This is a very confusing issue, because not long ago I installed three 300 GB U320 SCSI HDDs in my rx2600 (or zx6000, if you wish), one was DOA unfortunately. Anyway, I then noticed that Pun3 was recognized as U160, while the rest (Pun0 and Pun1) as U320. I believe this wasn't the case before (that maybe something ‘broke’), but I could be wrong.
malmberg August 04 2022 No more VAX hobbyist licenses. Community licenses for Alpha/IA64/X86_64 VMS Software Inc. Commercial VMS software licenses for VAX available from HPE.
ozboomer July 20 2022 Just re-visiting.. No more hobbyist licenses? Is that from vmssoftware.com, no 'community' licenses?
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malmberg January 18 2021 New Hobbyist PAKs for VAX/VMS are no longer available according to reports. Only commercial licenses are reported to be for sale from HPE
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