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Author VMS 6.2 7.1 Console Issue
Bruce Claremont
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Posted on April 15 2010 03:59
We see an issue on one of our test systems when installing VMS 6.2, 7.0, and 7.1 from an ISO image that we are unable to reproduce on any of our other test systems. The VMS installation will run normally. During the final reboot after the automatic AUTOGEN phase, error messages similar to those shown below will be displayed. The system will boot, but you will be unable to log in via the console.

The workaround is to <Ctrl^P> the emulator and boot again. There is no need to restart the emulator. On the second VMS boot the problem goes away.

If you encounter this problem, please post your host hardware information and the Windows O/S under which you are running FreeAXP to this thread. Include whether it is a 32 or 64-bit edition of Windows.


%ADA-I-CONSTRAINT_ERRO, CONSTRAINT_ERROR
-ADA-F-CONSTRAINT_ERRO, CONSTRAINT_ERROR
%ADA-F-CONSTRAINT_ERRO, CONSTRAINT_ERROR
-ADA-I-EXCRAIPRI, Exception raised prior to PC = 00057B48
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 17-NOV-1858 00:00:05.15 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on VMS062
%SECSRV-E-NOPROXYDB, cannot find proxy database file NET$PROXY.DAT
%RMS-E-FNF, file not found

%TRACE-E-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows
Image Name Module Name Routine Name Line Number rel PC abs PC
ADARTL 0 00054C94 003DEC94
0 80495D44 80495D44
----- above condition handler called with exception 00318324:
%ADA-F-CONSTRAINT_ERRO, CONSTRAINT_ERROR
-ADA-I-EXCRAIPRI, Exception raised prior to PC = 00057B48
----- end of exception message
0 82F842BC 82F842BC
ADARTL 0 00037BBC 003C1BBC
SECURITY_SER 0 00047B48 00057B48
SECURITY_SER 0 0007D25C 0008D25C
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 17-NOV-1858 00:00:05.17 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on VMS062
%SECSRV-E-NOPROXYDB, cannot find proxy database file NET$PROXY.DAT
%RMS-E-FNF, file not found

SECURITY_SER ADA$ELAB_SECURI 0 000300C0 000400C0
ADARTL 0 00054E18 003DEE18
ADARTL 0 00054594 003DE594
ADARTL 0 0003F4D0 003C94D0
SECURITY_SER ADA$ELAB_SECURI 0 0003005C 0004005C
SECURITY_SER 0 0008773C 0009773C
0 83082170 83082170




Edited by Bruce Claremont on April 15 2010 04:01
Author RE: pls supply more information
VolkerHalle
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Posted on April 15 2010 06:56
Bruce,

given that you've just announced support for V6.2, V7.0 and V7.1, this must really be a 'new' problem.

Have you tried or seen it on a real Alpha ? Based on the obvious and easy workaround, this may even be an 'old' OpenVMS problem, although I could not find anything in the old patches (except in VAXLOAD02_061).

Once SECURITY_SERVER is up and running, could you please provide the following data:

$ ANAL/SYS
SDA> SET PROC SECURITY_SERVER
SDA> EXA/INS 00057B48-40;80

Volker.
http://www.invenate.de
Author RE: VMS 6.2 7.1 Console Issue
Bruce Claremont
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Posted on April 15 2010 08:24
We only see the problem on one box. That's what's so unusual. I'll run your commands the next time the box is available.
Author RE: VMS 6.2 7.1 Console Issue
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Posted on April 15 2010 20:45
Bruce,

if you think this may be reproducable - maybe only on that one box, try to take a Windows copy of the system .vdisk in that state prior to the FIRST full boot after the AUTOGEN after the installation.

If the problem is related to the contents on the disk, you should be able to easily reproduce the problem with a copy of the disk in that state. Make another copy before you try it, so you preserve that state in case the problem really is reproducable.

As an alternative, stop FreeAXP before the final boot, restart it and then boot. This will tell you, if the problem somehow depends on the state of FreeAXP.

You can provide the instruction stream data from any other system running the SAME version of OpenVMS, with which you've seen this failure.

Debugging this may be a problem, because an undocumented SET SERVER/START/DUMP qualifier had been added, but apparently only for V7.3 and above.

Volker.
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Author RE: VMS 6.2 7.1 Console Issue
Bruce Claremont
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Posted on April 20 2010 07:12
Here's test results run on the box with the ADA problem (MSI02) and a box that does not see the ADA problem (MSI01).

SETUP (MSI02)

- Launch FreeAXP 271.

- Build VMS 6.2 from VMS 6.2 installation ISO.

- Save disk image after build and before boot that runs automatic AUTOGEN.


TEST 1 (MSI02)

- Continue from SETUP without restarting FreeAXP 271.

- Boot VMS 6.2 disk and let AUTOGEN/Reboot execute.

- See ADA errors. Cannot log in at console.

- ^P

- Reboot VMS 6.2.

- System boots without errors.

- Log in and run following commands:

$ ANAL/SYS

OpenVMS (TM) Alpha System analyzer

SDA> SET PROC SECURITY_SERVER
SDA> EXA/INS 00057B48-40;80
00057B08: LDQ R27,#X0028(R2)
00057B0C: JSR R26,(R26)
00057B10: LDL R0,#X0010(FP)
00057B14: BIS R31,R0,R6
00057B18: TRAPB
00057B1C: LDA R1,#X0833(R31)
00057B20: CMPLE R6,R1,R16
00057B24: LDA R17,#X076D(R31)
00057B28: XOR R16,#X01,R16
00057B2C: CMPLT R6,R17,R18
00057B30: BIS R18,R16,R18
00057B34: BEQ R18,#X000004
00057B38: BIS R31,R31,R25
00057B3C: LDQ R26,#X0020(R2)
00057B40: LDQ R27,#X0028(R2)
00057B44: JSR R26,(R26)
00057B48: LDA R1,#X076D(R31)
00057B4C: LDL R0,#X001C(FP)
00057B50: LDA R16,#X0833(R31)
00057B54: CMPLT R6,R1,R17
00057B58: CMPLE R6,R16,R18
00057B5C: BNE R17,#X00003F
00057B60: BEQ R18,#X00003E
00057B64: LDA R19,#XFFFF(R31)
00057B68: CMPEQ R0,R19,R20
00057B6C: CMPULT R31,R0,R0
00057B70: XOR R20,#X01,R20
00057B74: AND R0,R20,R20
00057B78: TRAPB
00057B7C: BEQ R20,#X000004
00057B80: LDQ R26,#X0020(R2)
00057B84: BIS R31,R31,R25
00057B88: LDQ R27,#X0028(R2)
SDA>




TEST 2 (MSI01)

- Copy pre-AUTOGEN disk image to a different host system.

- Launch FreeAXP 271.

- Boot pre-AUTOGEN disk.

- Runs AUTOGEN and reboots without errors.

- Login from console and run following commands:

$ anal/sys

OpenVMS (TM) Alpha System analyzer

SDA> SET PROC SECURITY_SERVER
SDA> EXA/INS 00057B48-40;80
00057B08: LDQ R27,#X0028(R2)
00057B0C: JSR R26,(R26)
00057B10: LDL R0,#X0010(FP)
00057B14: BIS R31,R0,R6
00057B18: TRAPB
00057B1C: LDA R1,#X0833(R31)
00057B20: CMPLE R6,R1,R16
00057B24: LDA R17,#X076D(R31)
00057B28: XOR R16,#X01,R16
00057B2C: CMPLT R6,R17,R18
00057B30: BIS R18,R16,R18
00057B34: BEQ R18,#X000004
00057B38: BIS R31,R31,R25
00057B3C: LDQ R26,#X0020(R2)
00057B40: LDQ R27,#X0028(R2)
00057B44: JSR R26,(R26)
00057B48: LDA R1,#X076D(R31)
00057B4C: LDL R0,#X001C(FP)
00057B50: LDA R16,#X0833(R31)
00057B54: CMPLT R6,R1,R17
00057B58: CMPLE R6,R16,R18
00057B5C: BNE R17,#X00003F
00057B60: BEQ R18,#X00003E
00057B64: LDA R19,#XFFFF(R31)
00057B68: CMPEQ R0,R19,R20
00057B6C: CMPULT R31,R0,R0
00057B70: XOR R20,#X01,R20
00057B74: AND R0,R20,R20
00057B78: TRAPB
00057B7C: BEQ R20,#X000004
00057B80: LDQ R26,#X0020(R2)
00057B84: BIS R31,R31,R25
00057B88: LDQ R27,#X0028(R2)
SDA>



Edited by Bruce Claremont on April 20 2010 09:58
Author RE: VMS 6.2 7.1 Console Issue
Bruce Claremont
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Posted on April 20 2010 08:05
One additional thing to note. On both systems a SHOW ERROR reveals the following:

$ sh err
Device Error Count
VMS062$PKA0: 1
VMS062$DKA0: 2



Edited by Bruce Claremont on April 20 2010 08:07
Author RE: VMS 6.2 7.1 Console Issue
Bruce Claremont
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Posted on April 20 2010 10:04
TEST 3 (MSI01)

Install VMS 6.2 from scratch using ISO. No problems.


TEST 4 (MSI02)

- Restart FreeAXP 271 and boot pre-AUTOGEN disk image. AUTOGEN and reboot complete with no problems. Was expecting ADA errors, but they did not occur. Can log in from console.


TEST 5 (MSI02)

- Restart FreeAXP 271,

- Re-install VMS 6.2 from ISO.

- After install, but before booting the disk image to let the install complete, shutdown and restart FreeAXP 271.

- Boot disk image. AUTOGEN and reboot complete without errors.

From this testing Volker's theory that something in the state of FreeAXP is playing a roll in the problem on MSI02 looks like the correct one.
Author RE: VMS 6.2 7.1 Console Issue
Bruce Claremont
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Posted on April 20 2010 10:25
TEST 6 (MSI02)

- Restart FreeAXP 271 with TTA0 serial port included in the configuration.

- Re-install VMS 6.2. Starting to wear grooves into the ISO, but it can't be helped. The testing must go on.

- Boot installed image without shutting down emulator.

- Note that am prompted for date twice. First on boot, then on automatic reboot after AUTOGEN completes. Systems where the install completes normally do not prompt for the date the second time.

- ADA errors appear as expected. Cannot log in from console.

- TTA0: provides a login prompt. However, since I did not install a VMS license, I cannot log in. Drat!
Author RE: VMS 6.2 7.1 Console Issue
Bruce Claremont
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Posted on April 20 2010 10:43
TEST 7 (MSI02)

- Repeat TEST 6 with installation of OPENVMS-ALPHA license during install.

- Boots and AUTOGEN's without error. Can log in from both OPA0 and TTA0.

Adding the VMS license changed the behavior.
Edited by Bruce Claremont on April 20 2010 10:43
Author RE: VMS 6.2 7.1 Console Issue
Bruce Claremont
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Posted on April 20 2010 10:54
TEST 8 (MSI01)

- Restart FreeAXP 271.

- Install VMS 6.2 from scratch. Do not enter VMS license PAK during installation.

- See ADA errors and cannot log in from console after installation completes. Behavior same as TEST 1. First time a box other than MSI02 has exhibited the problem.

- ^P and boot again.

- Boot completes normally. Can log in from console.

$ anal/sys

OpenVMS (TM) Alpha System analyzer

SDA> SET PROC SECURITY_SERVER
SDA> EXA/INS 00057B48-40;80
00057B08: LDQ R27,#X0028(R2)
00057B0C: JSR R26,(R26)
00057B10: LDL R0,#X0010(FP)
00057B14: BIS R31,R0,R6
00057B18: TRAPB
00057B1C: LDA R1,#X0833(R31)
00057B20: CMPLE R6,R1,R16
00057B24: LDA R17,#X076D(R31)
00057B28: XOR R16,#X01,R16
00057B2C: CMPLT R6,R17,R18
00057B30: BIS R18,R16,R18
00057B34: BEQ R18,#X000004
00057B38: BIS R31,R31,R25
00057B3C: LDQ R26,#X0020(R2)
00057B40: LDQ R27,#X0028(R2)
00057B44: JSR R26,(R26)
00057B48: LDA R1,#X076D(R31)
00057B4C: LDL R0,#X001C(FP)
00057B50: LDA R16,#X0833(R31)
00057B54: CMPLT R6,R1,R17
00057B58: CMPLE R6,R16,R18
00057B5C: BNE R17,#X00003F
00057B60: BEQ R18,#X00003E
00057B64: LDA R19,#XFFFF(R31)
00057B68: CMPEQ R0,R19,R20
00057B6C: CMPULT R31,R0,R0
00057B70: XOR R20,#X01,R20
00057B74: AND R0,R20,R20
00057B78: TRAPB
00057B7C: BEQ R20,#X000004
00057B80: LDQ R26,#X0020(R2)
00057B84: BIS R31,R31,R25
00057B88: LDQ R27,#X0028(R2)
SDA>


Author RE: VMS 6.2 7.1 Console Issue
Bruce Claremont
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Posted on April 21 2010 12:09
VMS 6.2 installation on real AlphaServer 400 has no problems.
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