I've been lurking here for some time, and I have used OpenVMS in the past. I am wondering what satisfaction people get out of it as a hobby. I know there are certain advantages and disadvantages of running it especially if you are an "enterprise" and have enterprise computing needs. I can see the historical interest, but how can you sustain that interest?
I don't mean to be polemical, or to start a flame war. I am just curious what it is that people find rewarding in this hobby. It can't be the internet experience or the level of support from HP, since the graphical browser is several versions and many critical vulnerabilities behind and it's not easy to get updates as I've been reading here. I can see how certain hardcore hackers who fell in love with MACRO would want to keep going with programming in it, given the amount of work it takes to appreciate it. Is this it? Or is it that DCL has become second nature, so that it's most comfortable to compute at home in this environment?
I'm aware that people like versioning file systems, robust drivers, fine-grained privileges, and high availability from clustering etc. But is this the makings of a satisfying hobby? And if so, what is the sustaining satisfaction? Please enlighten me!
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Posted on March 04 2011 14:25
I consider the fine-grained privileges, and the relative security to be the most useful/attractive features of this OS. I use my hobbyist VMS system as a home file server, and I keep important family documents (mortgage documents, copies of family medical records, personal financial information, etc.) with a feeling of safety and security. As long as no one physically steals the system, our important documents remain secure.
Thanks for your response Brad, and I am very interested to hear how it can be used for personal use. Do you encrypt your private documents? Do you expose this computer to the internet? My guess would be "yes" for the first, and "no" for the second question. Just by way of reference, people in the Unix world have been using OpenSolaris (like James Gosling, founder of the Java language: http://james.gosling.usesthis.com/ ) these days for home file serving because it has a good implementation of ZFS which also versions/snapshots files (also available in FreeBSD), and prevents against bit rot. (http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/features/articles/zfs_part1.scalable.jsp) OpenSolaris also has pretty fine grained privileges for files. Is there something similar to a checksumming file system in OpenVMS now? I'm sure they'd want to match features with Sun.
I guess the broader question I had was directed to those people who use OpenVMS on their main rig, for all/most of their daily computing needs. I wanted to know more about how to appreciate the unique things OpenVMS has to offer.
Edited by aarto on March 05 2011 05:49
malmberg March 24 2018 Probably. More people hang out on the comp.os.vms newsgroup.
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malmberg December 12 2017 HPE only makes the most current version of OpenVMS Alpha / IA64 /VAX available to hobbyists. When I had access to the Alliance 1 program it was the same. No public downloads are allowed by HPE.
nmbonao December 08 2017 Is anybody knows OpenVMS 8.2 version downloadable version? or CD copy? Thank you very much
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DoeveR August 07 2017 Where can I find the write up on running VMS 6.1 using the simh emulator?
Bart March 20 2017 Happy to have found my password again!