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OpenVMS Hobbyist Program | OpenVMS Hobbyist Media Kits | OpenVMS Alpha Media Kits
Author Problem?
growe
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Posts: 6
Joined: 21.02.12
Posted on February 21 2012 13:43
I have been playing with the Stromasys Personal Alpha emulator and have just recently downloaded my AXP-VMS media kit from the HP web site.

I hear that quite a few others have done this and don't have any problems but alas I am.

I'd be grateful if anyone can detail the process they used to download and prepare their VMS boot disk so I can see where I'm going wrong!

Thanks

Geoff
Author RE: Problem?
Bruce Claremont
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Posts: 505
Joined: 07.01.10
Posted on February 21 2012 16:18
Personally I would prefer you use FreeAXP. That said, if the download is in ISO format, then you should be able to mount the ISO file as a disk and boot it. If the download is a backup save set, then you are going to need an existing VMS system to facilitate things.
Author RE: Problem?
Bruce Claremont
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Posts: 505
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Posted on February 21 2012 16:53
I checked with John Egolf and he says the O/S Hobbyist distributions are ISOs, so you should be able to boot the ISO and install VMS just like on real hardware.
Author RE: Problem?
malmberg
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Posts: 464
Joined: 15.04.08
Posted on February 22 2012 01:50
Technically they are disk images, not ISO files.

The Itanium boot disk is dual format ISO and VMS native. If you use an ISO copy tool, it can only see a small part of the disk.

Most disk burning or virtual disk software will treat disk images and ISO files identically.

The Windows 7 option to create an ISO file from a VMS CD/DVD does not work. I have used the free tools from the site that also provided MagicDisk.

And make sure that you used IMAGE mode to download the disk images, not ASCII or course.

I also have used MagicDisk to mount the VMS disk images for the FreeAXP alpha emulator.

Update: After a e-mail conversation with Bruce, I do not think I used Magic Disk to mount VMS disk images for the emulator. I run the FreeAxp under VirtualBox and Virtualbox will present the VMS disk image files as CD-ROM images. This means that I would not ever need MagicDisk.

On Windows for copying VMS format CD-ROMs, I think I used the cygwin utility to copy a disk and I did the same on the Mac. I may have only used MagicISO to burn physical CDROMs or DVDs.

I uses FreeAxp because it has dual ethernet, and I have multiple Virtualbox VMs on a host which allow me to make a VMS cluster, where one ethernet is used for the internal communications and one is used for external access.
Edited by malmberg on February 24 2012 05:49
Author RE: Problem?
growe
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Posts: 6
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Posted on February 22 2012 13:51
Thanks for the help guys! I have some homework to do. Sadly I've been swamped by issues of a more mundane (read, worky stuff) nature today, hopefully tomorrow!

Geoff
Author RE: Problem?
growe
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Posts: 6
Joined: 21.02.12
Posted on February 23 2012 10:51
Bruce,

I took your advice and took a look at FreeAXP! Interesting! Such a difference and now I'm up and running. Can't believe how easy it was! I'm sitting here with a silly grin my my face plowing through the contents of sys$system....! It's been a LOT of years since I had a VMS box to play with!

Now I've proved it all works on my laptop I have an old desktop sitting gathering dust. I have the perfect excuse now to resurect it.

Now I have to see if I have PROMIS media somewhere, I'm now fascinated by the concept of a clustered pair of servers in Primary/Secondary mode......!

I'm not anti-PC but I definitely prefer Mac's for my real 'other' job!
Author RE: Problem?
Bruce Claremont
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Posts: 505
Joined: 07.01.10
Posted on February 24 2012 04:43
Happy to hear FreeAXP worked for you. Be advised your "old" desktop system will need two CPUs to run FreeAXP.

FYI: If you use Boot Camp or Parallels to support Windows on your Mac, you can run FreeAXP there as well.
Author RE: Problem?
growe
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Posts: 6
Joined: 21.02.12
Posted on February 24 2012 07:23
Yeah, You know I was thinking of that but I don't want to 'pollute' my Mac by running PC stuff; it's more than busy running Photoshop (memo to self, need memory upgrade!).

The PC is a dual core, I think. I've been thinking of doing some upgrades to that and turning into a home disk/print server..... I'm rambling!!! smiley
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