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OpenVMS Hobbyist Program | Hobbyist Licensing | Integrity License PAK's
Author How does a hobbyist obtain VMS/I64 media?
nickca
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Posted on March 25 2010 09:59
Paying whatever HP charges is out of the question. Now that dirt cheap Integrity servers are becoming available (rx2600s can be had for around $200, I paid $200 for an rx2600 and an Alpha DS10 - yes, be jealous smiley), will an Integrity hobbyist kit be offered anytime in the near future? I have a licensed copy of VMS running on it now, but I'd like to have install media in case I ever need to reinstall the OS for whatever reason. The only OS media I have for it is HP-UX - I would hate to resort to running that, or the same boring old Linux I run on my PCs.

Is there anyone reading this that would be willing to burn or part with a copy of VMS install media for Integrity? It wouldn't be a license violation, since I'm licensed to run the software, or at least will be when the hobbyist database is updated with my Encompass number.
Author RE: How does a hobbyist obtain VMS/I64 media?
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Posted on March 25 2010 12:41
nickca wrote:
Paying whatever HP charges is out of the question. Now that dirt cheap Integrity servers are becoming available (rx2600s can be had for around $200, I paid $200 for an rx2600 and an Alpha DS10 - yes, be jealous smiley),


OK - I will.
:-)

nickca wrote:
will an Integrity hobbyist kit be offered anytime in the near future? I have a licensed copy of VMS running on it now, but I'd like to have install media in case I ever need to reinstall the OS for whatever reason. The only OS media I have for it is HP-UX - I would hate to resort to running that, or the same boring old Linux I run on my PCs.


I may be *way* off here, but I think that a hobbyist license will work just as well as a "legal" license.

nickca wrote:
Is there anyone reading this that would be willing to burn or part with a copy of VMS install media for Integrity? It wouldn't be a license violation, since I'm licensed to run the software, or at least will be when the hobbyist database is updated with my Encompass number.


Install media may be hard to come by, but an "offline", image backup of the system disk would technically suit your needs as well, while also affording you the experience of learning some of the basics of VMS system management. All it would cost you would be a spare, dedicated disk, or a tape drive and a tape, and some time learning and doing.
:-)
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Author RE: How does a hobbyist obtain VMS/I64 media?
yuri
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Posted on August 20 2012 04:24
Hi,

I have a similar problem. A nice Itanium server, a valid license, but no install media. Unfortunately, I do not have an installed system either. Is it indeed legal to copy install media? If so, I'd be most interested in a copy, if anyone could provide one.

I do have an OpenVMS 8.4 upgrade for Itanium, but it seems it can't be used for a fresh install, unless I'm doing something wrong? If so, please do let me know what the trick is.

If I can help anyone with a copy of my upgrade DVD, or an image file of it, I'd be most happy to do so, if this is indeed legal.

Kind regards,
Yuri.
Author RE: How does a hobbyist obtain VMS/I64 media?
malmberg
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Posted on August 22 2012 17:26
If this is a hobby system, then when you register for the hobby licenses there also a temporary account set up for you to download the media.

If this is a commercial system, contact your reseller. Under HP licensing conventions, commercial licenses do not transfer with the sale of a system box and need to be transferred. Authorized resellers know how to do this.

As far as I know there is only one VMS 8.4 installation media that can be used for either upgrade or fresh installs. You just boot from the CD-ROM and follow the menu prompts.

And previous statements from HP is that they are not concerned as to where Hobbyists get their media from, but to my knowledge have not authorized anyone to provide it for public download.
Author RE: How does a hobbyist obtain VMS/I64 media?
John Manger
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Posted on August 23 2012 20:13
malmberg wrote:
And previous statements from HP is that they are not concerned as to where Hobbyists get their media from, but to my knowledge have not authorized anyone to provide it for public download.


Ah! That is an interesting statement !
It sounds quite plausible, but do you recall the source for that ?
Do you think that would also apply to Tru64 media as well ? (it too had a hobbyist program once upon a time).

regards,
John M
Author RE: How does a hobbyist obtain VMS/I64 media?
malmberg
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Posted on August 24 2012 02:08
I seem to remember seeing a post by an Digital Employee on comp.os.vms about the hobbyists obtaining media. And I think that I saw a post that by the Dallas/Fort Worth DECUS Users group, which used to run the media program that Digital would not allow them to offer downloads. This dates back to the early days when John Wiz*. was the main public advocate of the program at HP/Compaq/DEC.

HP charged about $100 for the Tru64 license and I think that included a media kit. I do not know what their current policies are. John Egolf may know.
Author RE: How does a hobbyist obtain VMS/I64 media?
yuri
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Posted on August 28 2012 03:52
Dear Malmberg,

malmberg wrote:

If this is a hobby system, then when you register for the hobby licenses there also a temporary account set up for you to download the media.


In that case I must have missed or overlooked the means to download. I did have another look through all my emails and the log file from my DECUServe session, but no luck there. Is tehre a way to obtain that link again?

malmberg wrote:

As far as I know there is only one VMS 8.4 installation media that can be used for either upgrade or fresh installs. You just boot from the CD-ROM and follow the menu prompts.


I do have an upgrade CD, but since the machine hangs pretty early on in the booting process, I assumed the problem was that the upgrade CD can't be used for a fresh install. I'll have another look into this.

Thanks for your input!

Best wishes,
Yuri.
Author RE: How does a hobbyist obtain VMS/I64 media?
malmberg
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Posted on August 29 2012 03:09
The DECUServe session has nothing to do with the license key distribution, that is coming directly from HP.

In the e-mails that I received, the from: address was a person that you can contact and request access to the media.

For either upgrades or installs, you first boot to the VMS DVD, which should bring up a menu for you to start an installation or upgrade.
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