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OpenVMS Hobbyist Program | Alpha Systems Forums | Emulated Alpha Forum
Author Starting X Session in OpenVMS
fire_lizard
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Posted on June 05 2015 02:54
Hi, I am completely newbie in OpenVMS, have just learned basic commands of its shell.

I have just completed installation of OpenVMS 8.4 in AlphaVM and have a very noob question:

How could I run X (Graphical) session in OpenVMS (according to screenshots it does have graphical interface)?

Thanks in advance.
Author RE: Starting X Session in OpenVMS
Bruce Claremont
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Posted on June 05 2015 04:15
You'll need DECwindows running and an X-windows client on a PC to connect an X-windows session.
Author RE: Starting X Session in OpenVMS
malmberg
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Posted on June 05 2015 08:14
x-ming works, but will not save configuration on Windows 8.

Cygwin/x stopped accepting the font-daemon settings which you need for VMS applications to render correctly.

You will need the font daemon started on at least one VMS Alpha or Itanium.
Author RE: Starting X Session in OpenVMS
fire_lizard
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Posted on June 12 2015 17:12
Thanks for the answers. Got my OpenVMS Alpha running and licenses (including ones for DECWindows) installed. Also I got TCP/IP, FTP, SSH working so I can connect to OpenVMS machine using FileZilla or just ping it from command line from the host machine.
How do I run DECwindows?
Author RE: Starting X Session in OpenVMS
Bruce Claremont
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Posted on June 13 2015 02:25
Start DECwindows in SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM at system boot. Instructions are include in the procedure.

Connect to the VMS system using your X-windows client.
Author RE: Starting X Session in OpenVMS
fire_lizard
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Posted on June 15 2015 23:18
Thank you for explanations, but I am still trying to connect to OpenVMS 8.4 Alpha X Server using XLaunch from XMing installation and did not succeed. The window shuts down immediately after startup.

Could you please tell me what I am doing wrong?

Here is my steps on establishing connection with the OpenVMS virtual machine.




Edited by fire_lizard on June 15 2015 23:20
Author RE: Starting X Session in OpenVMS
Bruce Claremont
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Posted on June 16 2015 02:52
Is DECwindows running on the Alpha?
Author RE: Starting X Session in OpenVMS
fire_lizard
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Posted on June 16 2015 09:41
$! The following command should be used only if you do not wish the
$! DECwindows startup file to be run automatically during system startup.
$! The DECwindows startup file should be run on all types of machines,
$! even ones not using a DECwindows display. If you wish to defer
$! DECwindows startup and manually invoke the startup file later during
$! system startup, uncomment the command below.
$!
$!$ DEFINE DECW$IGNORE_DECWINDOWS TRUE




This line is commented on my machine.

When I am trying to run DECWindows manually using this command

@SYS$MANAGERsmileyECW$STARTUP.COM

following error appears:

%DECW$DEVICE-I-NODEVICE, no graphics devices found.
Author RE: Starting X Session in OpenVMS
Bruce Claremont
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Posted on June 17 2015 04:23
The graphics device warning is normal on a system without a graphics card. We need someone with more X-ming experience to comment on its configuration.
Author RE: Starting X Session in OpenVMS
fire_lizard
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Posted on June 19 2015 02:39
Now I have got something out of it



Could you suggest any command I should enter instead of xterm?
Edited by fire_lizard on June 19 2015 02:39
Author RE: Starting X Session in OpenVMS
malmberg
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Posted on June 19 2015 10:06
https://sourceforge.net/p/vms-ports/wiki/InteropOtherOs/

See above for how to enable X-11 forwarding from Putty.

I generally just log in with Putty and then launch the X applications as desired.

The command to start an terminal session on VMS is:
"create/term/detached/logged_in"
Author RE: Starting X Session in OpenVMS
fire_lizard
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Posted on June 20 2015 00:06
Thank you for more help

I have enabled forwarding from Putty and changed command from xterm to create/term/detached/logged_in

But, anyway, I have this error:



and then this error:

Author RE: Starting X Session in OpenVMS
malmberg
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Posted on June 21 2015 12:05
I have never used the X-Ming launcher application.

I SSH into into the VMS system from Putty on the same system that the X-Ming is running on.

Then you should be able to run "mcr decw$clock" or "run decw$examples:ico.exe"

For VAX/VMS which does not have SSH support, you can not use a proxy, you have to use the SET DISPLAY command and you have to specifically enable the X-Server to accept the connection, as documented in the link I posted earlier.

Also make sure that your firewall is not blocking ports that X-MING uses. 6000 for X-server, and I can not remember the standard font server port.
Author RE: Starting X Session in OpenVMS
fire_lizard
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Posted on June 22 2015 01:07
Thank you very much for your help and patience! It all works now!
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