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OpenVMS Hobbyist Program | Alpha Systems Forums | FreeAXP
Author Oracle VM
Bruce Claremont
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Posted on May 23 2012 06:24
A bit of interesting news I thought worth posting courtesy of our friends at Maindec.

We had a query from a customer with regards whether FreeAXP can be run from within an Oracle VM environment. To prove this, we set up an Oracle VM configuration using two Intel servers running Oracle VM version 3, utilizing a remote iSCSI disk subsystem.

We configured a Windows 2008 VM, and installed FreeAXP running VMS version 7.3-1. We confirmed vMotion between the two Oracle VM servers, with virtually no noticeable delay in network activity at the point of transition. Additionally, the Oracle VM virtual network switches seem to have promiscuous mode enabled by default, unlike in VMWare, so the default network configuration supports DECNet.


FYI: Maindec has also confirmed VMware and vMotion support for FreeAXP and Avanti. Several customers have this in production.
Author RE: Oracle VM
malmberg
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Posted on May 24 2012 04:21
Since VirtualBox is an Oracle product, what is the difference between Oracle VM and VirtualBox?
Author RE: Oracle VM
malmberg
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Posted on May 24 2012 16:43
An internet search reveals that Oracle VM is short for Oracle VM Virtualbox.

This is the package that I have been using for an experimental VMS Cluster.

Virtualbox 3.1.8 worked well for clustering, but releases immediately after that would not allow the cluster traffic to pass. As soon as the cluster started to form the network interfaces would stop passing traffic until the VM was rebooted.

Virtualbox 4.1.8 showed some promise initially, but also started having problems with network traffic on the Windows VM only. One or both of the network interfaces would stop passing traffic. No problems were seen with the Ubuntu VM running SimH.

I have now been running Virtualbox 4.1.14 for a few days and so far the cluster running on a MacBook Pro has been stable for 5 days.

Author RE: Oracle VM
brad
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Posted on May 25 2012 00:49
malmberg wrote:
An internet search reveals that Oracle VM is short for Oracle VM Virtualbox.


I've been reading your posts regarding VBox with interest, since I have Vbox running on my Ubuntu Linux laptop. I currently run WinXP as a guest.
[...]

I have now been running Virtualbox 4.1.14 for a few days and so far the cluster running on a MacBook Pro has been stable for 5 days.


How much of a performance hit do you see with Host OS--->Windows--->VMS? Is the performance reasonably fast enough to keep me "interested"? I have a PWS 433au that I would like to retire permanently, and run a virtual version of VMS on my laptop, but I wonder how responsive such a setup might be.
http://www.turquoisewitch.com/~bradh
Author RE: Oracle VM
malmberg
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Posted on May 25 2012 03:15
It has been on my TODO list to run the VUPs test on the cluster nodes and my real nodes.

I know the command procedure was posted somewhere in this forum, I just have not taken the time to track it down and run it.

It would be interesting somewhere to have a place like a WIKI page that a collection of VUPs runs could be posted so that people can compare how the different environments stack up.
Author RE: Oracle VM
Bruce Claremont
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Posted on May 28 2012 03:21
FreeAXP Benchmark Link: http://www.migrationspecialties.com/VAXAlphaEmulator.html#Benchmarks
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malmberg
August 04 2022
No more VAX hobbyist licenses. Community licenses for Alpha/IA64/X86_64 VMS Software Inc. Commercial VMS software licenses for VAX available from HPE.

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July 20 2022
Just re-visiting.. No more hobbyist licenses? Is that from vmssoftware.com, no 'community' licenses?

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No more hobbyist license...sad

mister_wavey
February 12 2022
I recall that the disks failed on the public access VMS systems that included Fafner

parwezw
January 03 2022
Anyone know what happened to FAFNER.DYNDS.ORG? I had a hobbyist account here but can longer access the site.

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Make that DECdfs _2.1A_ for Vax

gtackett
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I'm looking for DECdfs V2.4A kit for VAX. Asking here just in case anyone is still listening.

MarkRLV
September 17 2021
At one time, didn't this web site have a job board? I would love to use my legacy skills one last time in my career.

malmberg
January 18 2021
New Hobbyist PAKs for VAX/VMS are no longer available according to reports. Only commercial licenses are reported to be for sale from HPE

dfilip
January 16 2021
Can someone please point me to hobbyist license pak? I'm looking for VAX/VMS 7.1, DECnet Phase IV, and UCX/TCPIP ... have the 7.1 media, need the license paks ... thanks!

Bart
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malmberg
September 05 2020
VSI community non-commercial licenses for AXP/IA64 are available now.

malmberg
September 05 2020
See the forum about licensing. Don't know if HPE hobby licenses still being issued. Commercial licenses still being sold.

silfox70
September 01 2020
I need the license for OpenVMS7.3. Where can I find them?

malmberg
August 29 2020
Eisner, which is currently being moved, got an SSH update and the keys were updated to more modern encryption standards.

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