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Author New OpenVMS version install on 2nd HDD?
rattila
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Posted on October 10 2017 19:36
Hi,

I've got 2 DEC3000 M300 hw with one disk. There isn't floppy or SCSI CD-ROM drive in the machines and no InfoServer for MOP network install but there is TCP/IP infrastructure BOOTP.

I want to install a OVMS 8.4 on a new 2nd disk but I don't know how. I've got an OVMS 8.4 iso image and that's all. BTW. I don't know how many Mbytes were installed in the machines so I don't know whether the OVMS 8.4 will able to run on it.

How can I install the new OVMS after I connected the 2nd SCSI disk?

I've got 2 PW 433 Alphas with one SCSI CD-ROM (and one PATA CD-ROM + PATA disks), too. Can I use them for installation? I know 8.4 is able to use PATA devices except installation from Intel chipset PATA port with CD-ROM. (boot starts and OVMS can't find the install device - CD drive). From the PWs SCSI cards are missing. Today I will buy 2 Adaptec 240UW PCI cards and I hope one of the PWs start working.

BTW2: Can I use the 2 USB ports on PWs?

TIA,
Author RE: New OpenVMS version install on 2nd HDD?
Bruce Claremont
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Posted on October 11 2017 02:10
Your life will be greatly simplified if you acquire a CD drive. Otherwise, build a bootable system using FreeAXP and then set up the 3000's as network satellites.
Author RE: New OpenVMS version install on 2nd HDD?
rattila
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Location: Budapest
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Posted on October 11 2017 06:30
Yes, my life would be easier if I've got a SCSI CD-ROM drive. I've got one without SCSI controller card!
Today I bought two Adaptec 1940UW PCI cards and my PWs SRM console know nothing about it! ARC can see the new SCSI card and its drives. :-(

Which is the SCSI card what is supported by OpenVMS and Personal Alpha machines (SRM)?

I've got a FreeAXP with 7.1 and 8.4 bootable systems. How can I go further?

TIA,
Author RE: New OpenVMS version install on 2nd HDD?
rattila
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Posted on October 11 2017 06:36
BTW: I upgraded my DEC3000 M300 with one internal and two external SCSI disk.
My TLZ07 DAT unable eject the cassette. Life is easy ...

Can I use FreeAXP and Linux making a bootable disk image what I can dd by linux to the real disk?
I that a possibility?

TIA,
Author RE: New OpenVMS version install on 2nd HDD?
Bruce Claremont
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Posted on October 12 2017 02:43
You can certainly use FreeAXP to create a bootable disk. I don't know enough about Linux to be helpful.
Author RE: New OpenVMS version install on 2nd HDD?
malmberg
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Posted on October 12 2017 03:19
OpenVMS/Alpha does not support TFTP booting.

OpenVMS + network card can be configured as a local area VMSCLUSTER and be used as a host to diskless satellites, or satellites that only use the local disk for paging a swapping.

The DEC 3000 Model 300 should have at least one built in SCSI adapter that a SCSI CD-ROM reader can be attached.

I do not know what additional SCSI cards that machine can take.
OpenVMS/Alpha/Itanium 8.4 has Infoserver software on it, so if you have a FreeAXP running with full network access, it can be an INFOSERVER.
Author RE: New OpenVMS version install on 2nd HDD?
dtih
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Posted on October 17 2017 08:57
This has caught my interest and attention. I have the same hardware, Alpha 3000-300. It is possible to add a 2nd SCSI channel with a Turbochannel card.

I tried installing OpenVMS 8.4 onto a RZ26 drive (1.05 Gsmiley and it filled up. Is this normal? (This was the hobbyist distro I am working with.) How much space does 8.4 need? Is it in the documentation somewhere?

How do you create a CD that a DEC RRD42 will use (512 byte sector)?
Author RE: New OpenVMS version install on 2nd HDD?
rattila
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Location: Budapest
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Posted on October 17 2017 19:45
I don't know the correct answer about 2nd SCSI controller.
There are 2 spare places for additional cards but they aren't normal PCI slots.

Why don't you use the 2nd internal disk drive place? And the CD go outside if there is external SCSI cable and use the existing SCSI bus?
If it is not an alternative get internal SCSI cable with min. 4 connectors (2 disks + CD + controller) and power Y cables and use the same internal SCSI bus.
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