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Author DS10 audio trouble
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Posted on July 31 2008 15:28
Ok guys, I figured I would upgrade my DS10 with a sound board.

Here's the story so far. I have OpenVMS 8.2 on this system, and have installed MMOV from

DEC-AXPVMS-MMOV-V0202--1.PCSI -- which I downloaded form HP's web site. The install seems to have gone fine, but I've tried it with two audiopci cards. One of which has an ES1371 chip on it, and the other one has a 1373.

MMOV$STARTUP.COM is being run from SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM, and does show up if I type SHOW SYS, however, when I try to run an audio program, I get something along these lines:


$ mcr mmov$audiocontrol
No wave devices to control.
$





Any ideas? Is there some patch I need to apply or some conflict between my version of VMS and my version of MMOV? Am I just missing The Last, Crucial Step of the installation process? I'm confused.

Chris
Author RE: DS10 audio trouble
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Posted on August 01 2008 05:45
Hum, I don't kwow if MMOV can work with a card other than the Compaq Ensoniq AudioPCI

A look at SYS$SYTEM:SYSCONFIG.DAT on my work DS10 don't show any declaration for the audio card (only the old Microsoft card found on old alphas).

Edit: ah, you try audiopcis. Bizarre. Have you installed the last verson of MMOV ? There was another release after MMOV 2.2 if I remember well (probably for the VMS 8.x support).


Patrick
Edited by pmoreau on August 01 2008 05:48
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Posted on August 02 2008 01:33
The right vetrsion is MMOV 2.2-1 ; I supposeit's the one you installed.

Try to see if the card is recognized by the SRM console. (sh device or sh config in console mode)


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Author RE: DS10 audio trouble
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Posted on December 11 2011 15:20
Does anyone have an idea what kind of chip the Compaq card has, or might have? Because I haven't been able to find any Compaq-branded Ensoniq AudioPCI cards as of late. One I found is mentioned in the parts catalog of a certain company, but when I requested a quote I didn't get any reply.



Edited by eMGee on December 11 2011 15:22
Author RE: DS10 audio trouble
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Posted on December 16 2011 02:54
The little info I was able to find says it has a Creative Ensoniq chip, either a 1371 or 1373. I also scrounged one of each from some old dead PCs but I have had no luck getting either to work in my DS10.

I don't have a Win9x/2K, PCI equipped PC to test them so I'm just assuming they are good. But they are old enough I suppose both could be dead and that is why VMS cannot find them.
Author RE: DS10 audio trouble
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Posted on December 20 2011 07:45
For the driver to be loaded the PCI ID needs to be in SYS$SYSTEM:SYS$USER_CONFIG.DAT.
The MMOV installation process puts the information there instead of modifying SYS$SYSTEM:SYS$CONFIG.DAT.

The newer Ensoniq sound cards may not be compatible with the MMOV driver and can not bring the device on line.

I can not remember the command to list the PCI bus IDs while VMS is booted.


Author RE: DS10 audio trouble
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Posted on December 20 2011 14:04
Recently I installed a non-Ensoniq audio card (a Genius/KYE one, actually; I'll publish the full details soon) in a DS10. It seems to be supported, under VMS Alpha V8.4. I haven't been able to actually try it out, yet. I did
already install MMOV and I'll do so, as soon as I can!

This is how it's recognized in the SDA:
2000 EC ADA: 16 Philips Sound
FFFFFFFF.81CFFD10 88FFFFFFFF.85BF




I did run into this:
$ MCR SYSMAN IO AUTOCONFIGURE /LOG
[...]
%IOGEN-E-LOADERR, error configuring device ADA0, driver SYS$CMIDRIVER.EXE
-RMS-E-FNF, file not found






If and when this card will eventually work, it shouldn't be hard to find this card. It's all over auction sites (e.g. eBay) and at very good prices, too.



Edited by eMGee on December 20 2011 14:49
Author RE: DS10 audio trouble
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Posted on December 23 2011 04:34
The driver (SYS$CMIDRIVER.EXE) seems to be available in VMS I64 installations, in the directory SYS$COMMON:[SYS$LDR].

Could it be that this particular audio card is that rare ‘terminal bell’ (16-bit ‘beeping’) ‘audio option’ for Integrity servers...? If so, then I guess there's no Alpha driver and I might as well take the card out again. The unfortunate thing is, this is a 5 V card, so it won't fit in an rx2620 PCI/PCI-X card cage.

I'll hunt for some Ensoniq cards instead and hopefully I'll get my hands on one that will work.


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Posted on December 23 2011 04:39
Here's the file in question, should it interest you or prove useful somehow:
$ ANALYZE /IMAGE SYS$COMMON:[SYS$LDR]SYS$CMIDRIVER.EXE


Analyze Image 23-DEC-2011 16:42:44.92
Page 1
SYS$COMMON:[SYS$LDR]SYS$CMIDRIVER.EXE;1
ANALYZ I01-55

This is an OpenVMS IA64 (Elf format) shareable image file

Image Identification Information, in section 7.

Image name: "SYS$CMIDRIVER"
Global Symbol Table name: "SYS$CMIDRIVER"
Image file identification: "DW V8.4-100330"
Image build identification: ""
Link identification: "Linker I02-37"
Link Date/Time: 30-MAR-2010 20:51:55.89

Image Transfer Information, in segment 5.

Main Transfer
Entry Address: 0000000000028060 (segment 3.)
GP Value: 0000000000230000
EXE$INITIALIZE Transfer
Entry Address: 0000000000028060 (segment 3.)
GP Value: 0000000000230000


Analyze Image 23-DEC-2011 16:42:45.02
Page 2
SYS$COMMON:[SYS$LDR]SYS$CMIDRIVER.EXE;1
ANALYZ I01-55

Image Activation Information, in segment 6.

Match Control
Algorithm: EQUAL
Major ID: 10675.
Minor ID: 3544974370.
Global Pointer: 0000000000230000
Link flags
Call SYS$IMGSTA
Image has main transfer
Image has pointer to EXE$INITIALIZE
Traceback records in image file
Traceback records in DSF
Debug records in DSF
Shareable Image List
SYS$BASE_IMAGE
SYS$PUBLIC_VECTORS
Component List, Image / Current System Version
SYS$K_VERSION_BASE_IMAGE (3.0 / 3.0)
SYS$K_VERSION_MEMORY_MANAGEMENT (3.0 / 3.0)
SYS$K_VERSION_IO (6.0 / 6.0)
SYS$K_VERSION_PROCESS_SCHED (2.0 / 2.0)
SYS$K_VERSION_SYSGEN (1.64 / 1.64)
SYS$K_VERSION_STABLE (1.64 / 1.64)
SYS$K_VERSION_MISC (1.64 / 1.64)
SYS$K_VERSION_CPU (2.0 / 2.0)
SYS$K_VERSION_VOLATILE (1.64 / 1.64)
SYS$K_VERSION_MULTI_PROCESSING (2.16 / 2.16)

Elf Header Information, at file address 0.

Class: ELF-64
Data: Little-endian byte order
Elf Header Version: 1.
OS ABI: OpenVMS
OS ABI Version: 2.
Type: Shareable
Machine Architecture: IA_64
Elf File Version: 1.
VMS Completion Code: SUCCESS


Analyze Image 23-DEC-2011 16:42:45.27
Page 3
SYS$COMMON:[SYS$LDR]SYS$CMIDRIVER.EXE;1
ANALYZ I01-55

PROGRAM SEGMENT SUMMARY Table at file address 00000048, 7. segments, 56. by
tes each, 392. total bytes

Number Type Virtual Address Memory Size File Address
File Size Flags
0. LOAD 0000000000010000 000000000000B9F0 0000000000000200
= Memory Size X-R------Res------------Shr---
1. LOAD 0000000000020000 00000000000011D8 000000000000BC00
= Memory Size --R------Res------------------
2. LOAD 0000000000024000 00000000000005D8 000000000000CE00
= Memory Size -WR------Res------------------
3. LOAD 0000000000028000 00000000000009D0 000000000000D400
= Memory Size XWR---Ini---------------------
4. LOAD 000000000002C000 00000000000001F8 000000000000DE00
= Memory Size --R---Ini---------------------
5. LOAD 0000000000030000 0000000000000428 000000000000E000
= Memory Size -WR------------------Sho------
6. DYNAMIC 0000000080000000 0000000000001910 000000000000E600
= Memory Size --R---------------------------

Key for Flags: X (Execute), W (Write), R (Read), Nwr (No write but relocations),
Ini (Initialization code), Res (Resident),
Vec (Vector), Pro (Protected), Nwf (No write but fixups), Sho (Sh
ort data), Shr (Shared), Nrc (No recovery code)

SECTION SUMMARY Table at file address 00014000, 10. sections, 64. b
ytes each, 640. total bytes

Number Type Name File Address
File Size Flags
0. NULL 0000000000000000
0000000000000000 ------------------------------
1. STRTAB .shstrtab 0000000000013E00
0000000000000071 ------------------------------
2. STRTAB .strtab 0000000000013C00
0000000000000001 ------------------------------
3. VMS_TRACE .debug_line 0000000000010000
0000000000002903 ------------------------------
4. VMS_TRACE .trace_abbrev 0000000000012A00
0000000000000087 ------------------------------
5. VMS_TRACE .trace_info 0000000000012C00
0000000000000B4D ------------------------------
6. VMS_TRACE .trace_aranges 0000000000013800
00000000000000E0 ------------------------------
7. NOTE .note 0000000000013A00
00000000000001A0 ------------------------------
8. NULL $LINKER RELOCATABLE_SYMBOL 0000000000000000
0000000000000000 ------------------------------
9. STRTAB .dynstr 000000000000E890
0000000000000023 -A----------------------------

Key for Flags: W (Write), A (Alloc), E (Execute), S (Strings), I (Info link), L
(Link order), O (OS-specific processing),
G (Group), Sho (Short), Nrc (No recovery code), Gbl (Global), Ovr
(Overlaid), Shr (Shared), Vec (Vector),
64b (Allocate 64bit address), Pro (Protected)


Analyze Image 23-DEC-2011 16:42:45.74
Page 4
SYS$COMMON:[SYS$LDR]SYS$CMIDRIVER.EXE;1
ANALYZ I01-55

The analysis uncovered NO errors.


ANALYZE/IMAGE SYS$COMMON:[SYS$LDR]SYS$CMIDRIVER.EXE







Author RE: DS10 audio trouble
eMGee
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Posted on January 06 2012 05:14
Am I right in my assumption, can anyone confirm it?


Author RE: DS10 audio trouble
eMGee
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Posted on January 18 2012 03:00
In the meantime, I successfully installed two Compaq-branded Ensoniq AudioPCI cards into my DS10s.

The version of MMOV on the HP web site wouldn't work, but someone was very kind to share a newer/newest version of MMOV (V2.2-1) with me, which does actually work! The version on HP's web site (V2.2, available here) would give me an error under VMS V8.4, after invoking SYSMAN IO AUTOCONFIGURE, that the Ensoniq driver image wasn't linked properly (or not against a recent enough version of VMS, apparently). MMOV V2.2-1 works fine, on the other hand.

DEC AXPVMS MMOV V2.2-1 Full LP Install (U) 17-JAN-2012
DEC AXPVMS MMOV V2.2 Full LP Remove - 17-JAN-2012




It's very interesting to have a VMS system with audio capabilities, I must say! (Especially after using I64 for quite some time.) I wish HP would release MMOV for I64 and support more devices. (Not just for audio, though.)



Edited by eMGee on January 18 2012 03:03
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