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OpenVMS Hobbyist Program | Alpha Systems Forums | Emulated Alpha Forum
Author setting up dec net and dec windows
sureshot
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Posts: 38
Location: Hillsboro Ohio
Joined: 15.02.07
Posted on October 22 2015 07:24
Hello

I hope i am not becoming a pest but i have another question i think will not answer its self like my others have done. I need a noobs primer on setting up dec net and windows motif. I need it very simple and explained very well. I have struggled on all of this but i am getting it done. So if someone can help me i will give you my email address if needed. when this is done I will be done with 95 percent of my project. I will then set up a 2 node cluster and then setup vms vax and pdp11 I really want to learn this stuff. Thanks in advance and sorry for being wordy.

Sureshot
Phil
prk62
Author RE: setting up dec net and dec windows
malmberg
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Posts: 530
Joined: 15.04.08
Posted on October 25 2015 16:45
For general installation, most people reference:

http://www.wherry.com/gadgets/retrocomputing/vax-simh.html

I would also look at the WIKI pages at the sourceforge VMS-PORTS project.

But for Decnet, when you do the VMS install, you need to select Decnet Phase IV. Decnet-Plus is for experts only. If you did not, you can boot the CD and do a reconfigure of VMS to install it.

For DECWindows, for Alpha or Itanium, if you do not have a supported graphics adapter on at least one system, you will want to select the option for Workstation Support and include both the 100 dpi fonts and the 75 DPI fonts. I do not know the current defaults, but 75 dpi fonts are for the lower resolution displays.

You will need the fonts installed to serve them to the X-11 display that you will use.

VAX/VMS can not serve fonts over TCP/IP in a way that most x-11 displays can use them, so you will likely want to have at least one free Alpha emulator in your collection.

I always recommend installing DECNET, even for a single node as there are special things you can do with decnet objects.

The main thing with DECNET Phase IV, is that the SCSSYSTEMID needs to be derived from the DECNET AREA and the DECNET NODE.

In a cluster, SCSSYSTEMID must be (1024 * area) + node. Recommend area 1, and node number 1 for your first node. This will cause SCSSYSTEMID 1025 for it.

You also have to chose to install DECWindows-Motif and install the Hobby license for it. You may get that option during the install.

In the VMS installation guide there should be the procedure for setting up decnet by running a command procedure that I think is named netconfig.

The VMS installation guide is actually the best reference for starters. I would recommend that you write up your learning experiences like Phill Wherry did.

On the DECWindows-Motif, on the system serving the fonts you need to look up how to start the font server, and then learn how to set up your X-11 display to connect to it.

I am sorry that I do not have time right now to come up with more detailed documentation.

But the worst that could happen is that you may have to practice some installs.
Author RE: setting up dec net and dec windows
sureshot
Member

Posts: 38
Location: Hillsboro Ohio
Joined: 15.02.07
Posted on October 27 2015 07:45
Thanks for your reply i have dnet install but i keep getting an error something that says servers=0 or something i am not in front of that computer. I will be going to a 2 node cluster but they are both emulated. and doing installs is not a problem LOL i have installed this several times to just get things correct and the computer i am going to run it on is not up and running yet so there is another install LOL I will do the reading you suggested

Phil
sureshot
prk62
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August 04 2022
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MarkRLV
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January 18 2021
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