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Author Can't install OpenVMS Hobbyist on a VAX 3900
Gabucino
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Joined: 29.05.07
Posted on May 29 2007 03:53
Installation hangs forever here:

>>>b dkb400
(BOOT/R5:0 DKB400)

2..
-DKB400
1..0..


%SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT Mapping the SYSDUMP.DMP on the System Disk
%SYSBOOT-W-SYSBOOT Can not map SYSDUMP.DMP on the System Disk
%SYSBOOT-W-SYSBOOT Can not map PAGEFILE.SYS on the System Disk
OpenVMS (TM) VAX Version X7G7 Major version id = 1 Minor version id = 0
%WBM-I-WBMINFO Write Bitmap has successfully completed initialization.
Please enter date and time (DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM): 29-MAY-2007 15:31

Configuring devices . . .

%SYSTEM-I-MOUNTVER, SABKUP$DKB400: is offline. Mount verification in progress.

Available device DKB400: device type PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W
Available device DKA500: device type RZ23L

(yes I know the HDD is small, it's irrelevant, VMS hangs even if no HDD is installed)
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Gabucino
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Posts: 6
Joined: 29.05.07
Posted on May 29 2007 21:16
Thanks for the reply!

The RZ23L is in there just to serve as an example, although I used a tailored OpenVMS 7.2 with it on my VAXstation. I'm currently trying to dig up some larger drives.

I'm not sure of what bus I have, it has PCI-like sockets (though obviously it's not PCI inside). It has a SCSI controller in it, right now the external CD drive is plugged in that. Even if I don't use that bus, VMS still doesn't boot. Should I try with that controller removed?

>>>sho qbus
Scan of Qbus I/O Space
-20001F40 (777500) = 0020 IPCR

Scan of Qbus Memory Space
>>>
Author
Gabucino
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Posts: 6
Joined: 29.05.07
Posted on May 30 2007 11:10
The enclosure says 3900, but yes it's just the outside. I've just received this box.

>>>sho dev

SCSI Adapter A, SCSI ID 6
-DKA500 (DEC RZ23L)

SCSI Adapter B, SCSI ID 7
-DKB400 (PLEXTOR CD-R)
Ethernet Adapter
-EZA0 (00-00-F8-52-67-97)
>>>sho conf

KA57-A V2.1, VMB 2.16
00-00-F8-52-67-97
256MB

TstNbr DevNam Info
------ -------- --------------------------
0 CPU_BD OK
A8 MEM OK
E4 DZ OK
E0 SCSI OK
5-L0-RZ23L 6-Adapter
5F NI OK
F0 SCSI_B OK
4-L0-CD-R 7-Adapter
0 QBUS OK

KA57 should be VAX 4000 series. There was a leftover OpenBSD on the RZ23, it says:

VAX 4000 105A [13002202 03210B01]

According to the OpenSSL speedtest it's 60% the performance of a 150Mhz 21064.

I'll verify termination. What's with the pci-socketed bus inside?
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Gabucino
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Posts: 6
Joined: 29.05.07
Posted on May 31 2007 01:02
I removed the scsi card, and used only the internal scsi controller. Hooked up like this: controller - hdd - [external] - cdrom - terminator.

VMS still hangs up.

Anyways this is how the extracted card looks like.

http://gabucino.be/picz/vaxscsicard.jpg

For the record, I tried placing the whole bus onto the card, also replaced the RZ23 with an RZ28, VMS still won't boot.

OpenVMS (TM) VAX Version X7G7 Major version id = 1 Minor version id = 0
%WBM-I-WBMINFO Write Bitmap has successfully completed initialization.
Please enter date and time (DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM): 31-MAY-2007 13:29

Configuring devices . . .

%SYSTEM-I-MOUNTVER, SABKUP$DKB400: is offline. Mount verification in progress.

Available device DKB0: device type RZ28
Available device DKB400: device type PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W
Author
Gabucino
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Posts: 6
Joined: 29.05.07
Posted on May 31 2007 04:48
I have one box. The CD-RW drive is Plextor px-w4220Ti. The only unusual jumpers are labelled "TEST" and "BLOCK".

The CD is from Montagar, new.

I tried to workaround the problem by extracting the B saveset under SIMH, and dumping the image onto the HDD. It worked, but it looks like VMS can't mount the CD:

(BOOT/R5:0 DKA0)

2..
-DKA0
1..0..

...

OpenVMS (TM) VAX Version BI73-7G7 Major version id = 1 Minor version id = 0
%WBM-I-WBMINFO Write Bitmap has successfully completed initialization.

OpenVMS VAX V7.3 Installation Procedure

Model: VAX 4000-108A
System device: RZ28 - _DKA0:
Free Blocks: 2854377
CPU type: 19-03

...
...
...

* Enter name of drive holding the OpenVMS distribution media: dka400
* Is the OpenVMS media ready to be mounted? [N] y
%MOUNT-F-FORMAT, invalid media format
%MOUNT-F-FORMAT, invalid media format
%MOUNT-F-FORMAT, invalid media format
%MOUNT-F-FORMAT, invalid media format
%MOUNT-F-FORMAT, invalid media format

This could be a sector size problem, right?
Author
Gabucino
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Posts: 6
Joined: 29.05.07
Posted on May 31 2007 05:49
Sidenote: it doesn't matter whether the BLOCK jumper is on or off. smiley

Looks like I'll have to get another CD drive to install VMS.
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