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Where can i download the Media Kit ? |
Anonymous
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| Posted on December 29 2005 03:21 |
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The HP Website is saying that Hobbyists can download or order the Mediakits. But i was not able to find the download recource.
Can somebody advice ?
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Guido Schmitz
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HobbyistOne
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| Posted on December 29 2005 17:52 |
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The licenses are free downloads. As the OpenVMS web site says, the media kits can be purchased for USD$30. At this time, we are not able to provide downloads of the software packages due to copyright issues. |
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imiller
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| Posted on March 25 2006 22:40 |
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See
http://vmsone.com/~ovmskits/vax_kits2003/
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Current version of VMS on the Media? |
Anonymous
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| Posted on May 05 2006 03:48 |
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The web page says 7.3, but no sub-version. As of 7.3.2, SSH is included with the TCPIP package. This would avoid us running an old (1.5) version of the SSH protocol, as all the 2.0's currently require commercial purchase. |
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Re: Current version of VMS on the Media? |
HobbyistOne
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| Posted on May 05 2006 09:10 |
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[quote:1d5269c60b="Anonymous"]The web page says 7.3, but no sub-version. As of 7.3.2, SSH is included with the TCPIP package. This would avoid us running an old (1.5) version of the SSH protocol, as all the 2.0's currently require commercial purchase.[/quote:1d5269c60b]
The current version is V7.3, the kit was mastered before the -1 and -2 hit the streets. |
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Re: Current version of VMS on the Media? |
brad
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| Posted on May 05 2006 13:00 |
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[quote:f9709cb119="Anonymous"]The web page says 7.3, but no sub-version. As of 7.3.2, SSH is included with the TCPIP package. This would avoid us running an old (1.5) version of the SSH protocol, as all the 2.0's currently require commercial purchase.[/quote:f9709cb119]
If you wish, you can get Hobbyist versions of TCPware or Multinet from process.com; they work fine with VMS V7.3, and have SSH (and many other goodies) built in. |
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another places to look for VAX media |
imiller
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| Posted on September 08 2006 00:45 |
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http://vms.vmslive.com/CharonVAX/5.2-h4/VMS55h4update.zip
ftp://ftp.langstoeger.at/vms/condist-kits/vax/openvms/vms073/ |
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get installation kits to work on a VMS computer... |
Micha
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| Posted on January 01 2007 08:33 |
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Maybe this thread is a good place to mention a pitfall that can drive beginners (like me) almost cracy:
From the above mentioned website http://vmsone.com/~ovmskits/vax_kits2003/ one can download the software kits (only file-by-file via HTTP).
When putting the kits to a SIMH- or a real VAX, they refuse to install, because of wrong block size. It is then helpful to apply the following odd command to the files to fix them:
$ SET FILE/ATTRIBUTES=(LRL=value) kitname
where value could be 32256 or 9216, the abbreviation LRL stands for "logical record length"
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Re: get installation kits to work on a VMS computer... |
BillyT
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Does anyone know the correct LRL value to install ADA035? I've tried everything and I'm making no progress. |
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Re: get installation kits to work on a VMS computer... |
HobbyistOne
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[quote:372dc85b23="BillyT"]Does anyone know the correct LRL value to install ADA035? I've tried everything and I'm making no progress.[/quote:372dc85b23]
http://vmsone.com/~ovmskits/vax_kits2003/disk3/ada035/kit/ is rumoured to have it, but you didn't hear it from me... |
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BillyT
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I was able to obtain the kit as you say, but I have tried:
$SET FILE/ATTRIBUTE(LRL:XXXXX) ADA035.A
$SET FILE/ATTRIBUTE(LRL:XXXXX) ADA035.B
$SET FILE/ATTRIBUTE(LRL:XXXXX) ADA035.C
where XXXXX IN (9216, 32256, 32768)
I tried setting all three file names to all three values and in each case, I get the same thing when I run
the command @SYS$UPDATE:VMSINSTAL ADA035 dua1:[DCSE12001.ADA035.KIT]:
%BACKUP-F-NOTSAVESET, DUA1:[DCSE12001.ADA035.KIT]ADA035.A;1 is not a BACKUP save set
I even tried the command BACKUP/LIST filename.ext /SAVE for all three files and I get:
%BACKUP-F-NOTSAVESET, DUA1:[DCSE12001.ADA035.KIT]ADA035.C;1 is not a BACKUP save set
So, I'm not really sure how to proceed. I'm really just interested in running all of the other computer language applications: ADA, APL, COBOL, DIBOL, LISP, etc... I'd even be willing to spend some money, travel or what not (if it were reasonable for a hobbyist) to obtain the language software. I already have the hobbyist licenses. |
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| Posted on January 16 2007 09:21 |
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[quote:ae15d831ee="BillyT"]I was able to obtain the kit as you say, but I have tried:
$SET FILE/ATTRIBUTE(LRL:XXXXX) ADA035.A
$SET FILE/ATTRIBUTE(LRL:XXXXX) ADA035.B
$SET FILE/ATTRIBUTE(LRL:XXXXX) ADA035.C
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Try 8192. Also, BACKUP generally will display the save set header during the listing, and often that includes the "Block Size: xxxxx" attribute in the list at some point before it gives the error. |
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BillyT
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| Posted on January 16 2007 18:18 |
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[code:1:c446eb3329]As background I am running the OpenVMS Hobbyist Kit V7.3-1 from Montagar software and have all of the programming languages installed from the CDROM.
The problem is that I want as many programming languages running as I can get my hands on. However, though I could obtain the license PAKs for many of the layered products, finding the layered products proved more difficult.
Then once I found them, getting the backup sets to be recognized by the VMS installer was my next hurdle.
Just to help someone else down the line who might find themselves in the same dilemma I did, I was successful at installing everything I wanted to by issuing the following commands.
Run this command for each backup set file in the setup kit (within the KIT directory):
$SET FILE/ATTRIBUTES=(RFM:FIX,MRS:XXXXX,LRL:XXXXX,RAT:NONE) FILENAME.EXT;VER
Use the following XXXXX (block size) values for the following product kits:
ADA035 9216
CXX056 32256
COBOL057 9216
PLI038 32256
Then run the install command:
$@SYS$UPDATE:VMSINSTAL PRODUCTKIT DEVICE:[KITDIRECTORY]
I also ran into a problem installing CXX056 as I already had CC064 installed. In order to get CXX056 successfully installed I had to do the following:
1. Extract COMPLEX.H from SYS$LIBRARY:DECC$RTLDEF.TLB, and save it.
$LIBR/EXTRACT=COMPLEX/OUT=SYS$SCRATCH:COMPLEX.H SYS$LIBRARY:DECC$RTLDEF.TLB
2. Remove COMPLEX.H from SYS$LIBRARY:DECC$RTLDEF.TLB.
$LIBR/DELETE=COMPLEX SYS$LIBRARY:DECC$RTLDEF.TLB
3. Install CXX056.
4. Reinsert the saved COMPLEX.H back into SYS$LIBRARY:DECC$RTLDEF.TLB
$LIBR/INSERT SYS$LIBRARY:DECC$RTLDEF.TLB SYS$SCRATCH:COMPLEX.H
$TYPE SYS$UPDATE:VMSINSTAL.HISTORY
VMSINSTAL Product Installation History File
S = Success F = Failure NA = Not Applicable
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Product Information | Installation Information
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Name | Mnemonic | Version | Date | Status| IVP |Node | Installer
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| BASIC | 3.9 | 13-JAN-2007 | S | S |TOPCAT | DCSE12001
| CC | 6.4 | 13-JAN-2007 | S | S |TOPCAT | DCSE12001
| FORT | 6.6 | 13-JAN-2007 | S | S |TOPCAT | DCSE12001
| PASCAL | 5.8 | 13-JAN-2007 | S | S |TOPCAT | DCSE12001
| ADA | 3.5 | 16-JAN-2007 | S | S |TOPCAT | DCSE12001
| CXX | 5.6 | 16-JAN-2007 | S | S |TOPCAT | DCSE12001
| COBOL | 5.7 | 16-JAN-2007 | S | S |TOPCAT | DCSE12001
| PLI | 3.8 | 16-JAN-2007 | S | S |TOPCAT | DCSE12001[/code:1:c446eb3329] |
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| Posted on January 16 2007 18:31 |
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I'm also aware that there are even more computer languages: Bliss, Macro64, Perl, Python, etc on the Freeware CDs which I just might buy myself a set of those.
However, I'd really really like to find (which are all marked as retired products on the HP web site):
VAX APL
VAX CORAL 66
VAX DIBOL
VAX LISP VMS
Fortran IV/Vax
Do you have any idea if it is possible to find and use these retired products?
I appreciate your time.
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HobbyistOne
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| Posted on January 16 2007 19:45 |
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[quote:7b1281d9ad="BillyT"]I'm also aware that there are even more computer languages: Bliss, Macro64, Perl, Python, etc on the Freeware CDs which I just might buy myself a set of those.[/quote:7b1281d9ad]
You should be able to download them off Freeware page on the OpenVMS web site
[quote:7b1281d9ad]
However, I'd really really like to find (which are all marked as retired products on the HP web site):
VAX APL
VAX CORAL 66
VAX DIBOL
VAX LISP VMS
Fortran IV/Vax
Do you have any idea if it is possible to find and use these retired products?
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Some of those have been retired for some time, and none of the more recent Distributions have them. If anyone has an older distribution, maybe they can send you off a copy. |
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